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	<title>Comments on: A Pathway to Liquidity or Window Dressing?</title>
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		<title>By: Roderick's Financial Advisor</title>
		<link>http://www.21wilsonstreet.com/archives/2008/05/securitisation-a-pathway-to-liquidity-or-window-dressing.html#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>Roderick's Financial Advisor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 09:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(For lay people, BASEL is pronounced Baal in english)
(Also, Tranch rhymes with Launch)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(For lay people, BASEL is pronounced Baal in english)<br />
(Also, Tranch rhymes with Launch)</p>
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		<title>By: Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.21wilsonstreet.com/archives/2008/05/securitisation-a-pathway-to-liquidity-or-window-dressing.html#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 04:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The banks are just doing what they can do to perform their responsibility to the shareholders even though its already tricking the investors! It should be the regulators that should put a limit of what banks can and can do. Although recently most regulators have been doing their part to combat these abuses of banks through the implementation of BASEL 2.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The banks are just doing what they can do to perform their responsibility to the shareholders even though its already tricking the investors! It should be the regulators that should put a limit of what banks can and can do. Although recently most regulators have been doing their part to combat these abuses of banks through the implementation of BASEL 2.</p>
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		<title>By: Roderick's Financial Advisor</title>
		<link>http://www.21wilsonstreet.com/archives/2008/05/securitisation-a-pathway-to-liquidity-or-window-dressing.html#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>Roderick's Financial Advisor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 02:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The banks are tricking you laypeople and stealing your money.

Do you agree Mr 21?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The banks are tricking you laypeople and stealing your money.</p>
<p>Do you agree Mr 21?</p>
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		<title>By: deuts</title>
		<link>http://www.21wilsonstreet.com/archives/2008/05/securitisation-a-pathway-to-liquidity-or-window-dressing.html#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>deuts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 02:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmm, could you please make it more comprehensible my laypeople like me? :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmm, could you please make it more comprehensible my laypeople like me? <img src='http://www.21wilsonstreet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Roderick's Financial Advisor</title>
		<link>http://www.21wilsonstreet.com/archives/2008/05/securitisation-a-pathway-to-liquidity-or-window-dressing.html#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>Roderick's Financial Advisor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 00:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely.. I agree completely.

SPV's and SIV's (as they're more commonly known in the US) are a perfect example of the inventiveness of modern banks. By using their superior financial knowledge they confuse and deceive the markets and increase their shareholders profits. 

However, you say, just because you securitize something and break it up into tranches, that doesn't necessarily improve it right? Who is going to invest in the lowest tranches, where the default and repayment risk is intensely concentrated. Wouldn't these be a terrible investment and nearly worthless?

Of course not oh ye of little faith, this is big banks we are talking about!

Here is where things get really creative:
The newest financial product is to set up a SIV, then provide lower than market rate loans to allow people to invest in the products. Isn't it perfect? Lending money to people to invest in your own bad loans. It creates a perfect circle with which to confuse everyone and make your senior executives and shareholders rich in the mean time!

It's Off-off Balance Sheet!

The aim is to confuse everybody for long enough, that the market improves and you can cover these minor losses with huge profits generated from other legitimate money laundering enterprises, I mean well thought out strategies.

My conclusion is, these products seems to work pretty well, no ones been caught out so far, (except for some minor banks like Bear Stearns),so as long as my clients have investments in banks, I'm not complaining. (Just so long as they don't invest in SIV's themselves)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely.. I agree completely.</p>
<p>SPV&#8217;s and SIV&#8217;s (as they&#8217;re more commonly known in the US) are a perfect example of the inventiveness of modern banks. By using their superior financial knowledge they confuse and deceive the markets and increase their shareholders profits. </p>
<p>However, you say, just because you securitize something and break it up into tranches, that doesn&#8217;t necessarily improve it right? Who is going to invest in the lowest tranches, where the default and repayment risk is intensely concentrated. Wouldn&#8217;t these be a terrible investment and nearly worthless?</p>
<p>Of course not oh ye of little faith, this is big banks we are talking about!</p>
<p>Here is where things get really creative:<br />
The newest financial product is to set up a SIV, then provide lower than market rate loans to allow people to invest in the products. Isn&#8217;t it perfect? Lending money to people to invest in your own bad loans. It creates a perfect circle with which to confuse everyone and make your senior executives and shareholders rich in the mean time!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s Off-off Balance Sheet!</p>
<p>The aim is to confuse everybody for long enough, that the market improves and you can cover these minor losses with huge profits generated from other legitimate money laundering enterprises, I mean well thought out strategies.</p>
<p>My conclusion is, these products seems to work pretty well, no ones been caught out so far, (except for some minor banks like Bear Stearns),so as long as my clients have investments in banks, I&#8217;m not complaining. (Just so long as they don&#8217;t invest in SIV&#8217;s themselves)</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel</title>
		<link>http://www.21wilsonstreet.com/archives/2008/05/securitisation-a-pathway-to-liquidity-or-window-dressing.html#comment-57</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 00:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet another informative post. What are the other things banks can do  to improve liquidity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yet another informative post. What are the other things banks can do  to improve liquidity?</p>
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